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Fertility Q&A: Systemic Enzyme Therapy, Dong Quai & Endometriosis, Soy Lecithin Products…

Fertility Q&A: Systemic Enzyme Therapy, Dong Quai & Endometriosis, Soy Lecithin Products…

1. Q: My questions is how will i know that the RejuvenZyme is working? Will I see scar tissue come out, or will it just dissolve on its own?

A: Some women experience tissue-like clots coming out during their menstruation, but typically you cannot see any external signs the Wobenzym N is working. This is because the systemic enzymes eat and dissolve away the scar tissue, adhesions, and old blood or damaged tissues. The best way to see if you are making progress is to have a scan done, or other imaging testing done. Systemic Enzyme Therapy is best done for 3-4 months consistently for best results. Depending on the extent of scar tissue or adhesion damage, it may take longer.

2. Q: I have a question about Dong Quai. I have read that it increases blood flow and was wondering if this would be bad for endometriosis? Some websites suggest that this could be the case, as it causes more displacement of blood. Could you explain how it would be good for endometriosis, as you recommend it for endometriosis.

A: This is a great question! Below are key actions for Dong Quai in relation to endometriosis.

Pain and Inflammation: Dong Quai may be a good choice for women with endometriosis in that this herb is wonderful at reducing pain and inflammation. Women with endometriosis often have both of these. This herb is a powerful analgesic, which reduces pain.

Increased Circulation: Endometriosis is considered a stagnant condition, described in Traditional Chinese Medicine as ‘uterine stasis’. Dong Quai slightly increases circulation, including circulation to the reproductive organs. We often tend to think that with endometriosis we should cut off blood supply or limit increase in circulation because this may cause the endometrial tissue to spread or have a “flare-up” and become worse. With Dong Quai the increase in circulation helps to bring in fresh healthy blood to remove excess tissue growth, heal tissue damage, limit scar tissue and adhesion formation. Healthy circulation insures healthy natural cleansing of the body as well. Proper circulation is required to remove toxins, dead tissue, diseased tissue, metabolic waste from our bodies. This is very important for women with endometriosis. Healthy circulation also aids in healthy inflammatory response.

Immunological Support: Dong Quai stimulates healthy immune response, reduces depression, fatigue, and psycho-emotional symptoms associated with endometriosis. Many women experience pain, lowered immune function, or impaired immune function, depression or emotional strain due to endometriosis. Dong Quai may help support natural, healthy function of the mind and emotional strain of life associated with endometriosis. Researchers have found an immune-related connection to endometriosis. Some research points to women with endometriosis having some type of autoimmune response that is out of balance. Dong Quai has been shown to have immunomodulatory effects where the Dong Quai stimulates phagocytic activity. This stimulation of phagocytic activity aids in the breakdown of foreign tissue, while aiding the entire immune system in healthy immune response, rather than aiding in the increase of endometrial growth outside of the uterus.

Uterine Tonic: Dong Quai is also a wonderful uterine tonic. It gently tones and relaxes the uterus.

If you are worried that Dong Quai may affect endometriosis negatively, then it may be best to avoid it. It is always best to seek the advice about your individual needs in regard to your personal health from a practitioner you can work one-on-one with. Dong Quai may or may not be right for your personal needs, based on your health history. Dong Quai has been used traditionally for many years for women with endometriosis, but this does not mean that it is the best herb for endometriosis. There are other remedies we feel are better than Dong Quai alone. You can learn which remedies we find are helpful for endometriosis here:

Our EndoWise Fertility Kit has an herbal blend we find works great, it is called Women’s Best Friend, it contains Dong Quai.

3. Q: Can Vitex stop ovulation? When I was just taking Dong Quai my periods became regular, but not really showing signs of ovulation, so i started Vitex and my cycles are 33-34 days with no real signs of O (ovulation). I will get down to 96.9 on BBT chart and then it goes up to 97.6, then nothing any higher. I have also began taking maca. I was on clomid for 3 cycles and couldn’t stand the feeling on it. Although one month it did make me O sooner. I also heard to start progesterone cream on day 12 – 26 to help out. Please help my Dr. said it was not a good O, but my cycles were around 28 days. Then they went to 33-42 for a while and then he did clomid. I did O once on clomid, but not after so I started looking into natural ways to do this. Is it okay if after O your temps don’t rise in the 98 or 99 degrees? I want another baby so bad, trying to figure this out. I always had no problem getting pregnant the other 3 times. I then had my tubes tied and then reversed 10 yrs later and got pregnant right away. Please Help!

A: First off, it may be possible that you are not ovulating and don’t know it. Continue to chart with BBT. Vitex takes many months to be effective, about 6-12 months of consistent use. It takes patience and commitment when using this herb. The first few cycles of using it can also be frustrating because your body works with the Vitex to adjust and balance hormones. This can create a few cycles that seem “off” or different than normal. Many women give up on Vitex too soon because of this. You will never achieve benefits using this herb if you give up on it too soon. Vitex is specific for helping the female body to regulate ovulation, while balancing the entire communication through the hormonal feedback loop.

I do not suggest using progesterone cream until you know if you are in need of it. Getting a progesterone test would be a good idea; that way you can know for sure if you need it or not. You can learn more about that here:

It may also be a good idea to consider therapies for tubal ligation removal. Scar tissue is often present in women who have had this procedure. I would recommend learning more about Systemic Enzyme Therapy, Self Fertility Massage and Castor Oil packs as well. When these three therapies are combined, they are effective at dissolving scar tissue and adhesions. This is essential to aiding the fallopian tubes to be open and clear. This may help reduce the chance of ectopic pregnancy and increases your chances for a successful pregnancy. If you would like to learn more about this, please read our article at this link:

For your concerns about temperature rise to signal ovulation, the body’s resting temperature increases four-tenths of a degree Fahrenheit or two-tenths of a degree Centigrade under the influence of progesterone at ovulation. This is slight and you do not need a huge increase in temperature to signal that you have ovulated. If you still feel confused about BBT charting, you can read our article at this link: or you can go to a wonderful charting site like

4. Q: We are cautioned not to eat soy when trying to conceive, however, the Fertilica FertiliGreens says it contains soy. Please explain what different types of soy there are, and which we should avoid and which we may consume. Thank you in advance!

A: Great question! Soy lecithin is used in our Fertilica FertiliGreens to keep the product from caking. Many powdered supplements contain soy lecithin. Soy lecithin does not work the same in our bodies as other concentrated food soy products do. The soy lecithin comes in trace amounts, but because it is in the product, it must be listed. In our modern society, vegan and vegetarian processed food products abound. Avoid processed food products made with soy protein like: soy burgers, soy milk, TVP (textured veggie protein), vegetable oil (made from soy), breads containing soy oil or flour, white brick tofu, fake vegetarian meats, etc. All of these have concentrated amounts of soy, much more than any traditional culture would ever consume. They cause excess estrogen in the body. Small amounts of miso, tempeh or other fermented soy products are okay. 2 times a week at most, in less than a 1oz serving.

Dr. Christine Traxler M.D., OB/GYN
Dr. Christine Traxler M.D., OB/GYN

Dr. Traxler is a University-trained obstetrician/gynecologist, working with patients in Minnesota for over 20 years. She is a professional medical writer; having authored multiple books on pregnancy and childbirth; textbooks and coursework for medical students and other healthcare providers; and has written over 1000 articles on medical, health, and wellness topics.  Dr. Traxler attended the University of Minnesota College of Biological Sciences and University of Minnesota Medical School,  earning a degree in biochemistry with summa cum laude honors in 1981,  and receiving her Medical Doctorate degree (MD) in 1986.

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    Can you take Wobenzym N along with clomid? This will be our 4th cycle on clomid, 5 years trying… I don’t want to waste this cycle… I also got a castor oil kit to use this cycle. I just want to make sure there isn’t anything that will clash and cause bad side effects.

    • Dear Moonlight,

      We are required to state that you need to consult your healthcare provider when taking a medication and wanting to add a supplement. With that many doctors do support taking Wobenzym N, so do ask yours. Castor Oil Packs are fine until ovulation (not after) when actively trying to conceive.

      My best!

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    I am 15 years post surgical removal of uterus and ovaries from 20+ years of endometriosis. The multiple surgeries left residual endometriosis tissue and nerve entrapment at McBernies point of which I have fought at time debilitating pain. Of course western med solution options were more surgery ( more scar tissue), ablating the nerve or heavy pain killers. I opted for acupuncture and massage to stretch the tissue and scars at flare ups to relieve pain. ( these are large bands of tissue and scars that run from diaphragm to pelvic bone and tie colon, intestines, diaphragm, etc all together. My question is could adding Don Quai help to soften or dissolve any of the residual tissue or am I doomed

    • Dear Jody,

      I’m so sorry for all you’ve been through and continue to have to deal with. I have to be honest, supporting the use of Dong Quai in such a situation is beyond my area of expertise. Have you asked your massage therapist of acupuncturist about trying it? What about TCM herbs? It would be best to seek their support or the support of an herbalist or naturopath near you, someone who can monitor you while using it.

      My best!

  3. Update 2014 – We are back! We have been away for a while and we sure have missed all of your wonderful questions and thoughts on our articles. Moving forward, one of our staff herbalists will be here to respond to comments! We look forward to connecting with our readers once again!

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    I was wondering what is best to help me ovulate I have absent periods and just started dong quai to hopefully jump start them. I am wanting a baby so bad I want to do it with out harsh drugs the doctors prescribe please help me!

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    does it mean that Rejuvenzyme can eradicate uterine fibroid

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    Can i use Women s Best friend at the same time with Wobenzym N, since they seem to be related?


    • Hi ingabire Julia,

      Women’s Best Friend is different than Wobenzym N, though WBF does contain protease. Protease is one of the main enzymes in Wobenzym N. Protease works by helping the body to dissolve foreign tissues including those present from endometriosis, uterine fibroids, scar tissue and adhesion formation. Protease also aids the body in proper blood formation and detoxification. WBF contains a much lower amount of protease than in Wobenzym N. Women’s Best Friend is an herbal blend. Wobenzym N is an enzyme blend, so they work differently.

      Both of those have been shown safe to combine. In fact those two products are part of some of our kits.

      All the best,